I am against the 60th St. toll as there is a potential for Bronx residents to be tolled twice if they try to drive into Manhattan. As a lifelong NYC resident, the outer boroughs have always played second fiddle to Manhattan and this adds to the impression that only Manhattan counts. I have 2 small children and most Sundays, we drive into Manhattan for a family day which includes us getting lunch or dinner. That trip now becomes much more expensive if I have to pay 2 tolls.
Which brings me to my other issues with this. Why do drivers going North at 60th street have to pay toll since they are leaving the area.? Also, if this is implemented, the tolls should only apply during working hours on weekdays.
Finally, trying to get more money out of non-Manhattan NYC residents should only be attempted after trying to get more out of those who chose to leave NYC but work in it. This means bringing back the commuter tax on suburban residents. This could help fund some of these services that this plan intends to.
There are too many flaws in this for me to support and I am a person who lives a green lifestyle and takes mass transit most days and rides my bike for most of my errands. It just seems another Manhattan centric policy at the expense of the rest of the city, which is poorer. Manhattan should not be a gated community.
Are tolls going to be half the cost they are now so I pay half coming in and half going out? I did not get that impression. Plus I am not sure how one games the toll at this point? If I want to avoid it, I cant go into Queens since I still have to use the Triborough to get back,.
Anyway, I think a compromise on this is to have the plan only apply on weekdays between 8am and 6pm and no tolls leaving the area since one leaving helps solve the issue by reducing congestion. I agree that weekday congestion is horrible and needs to be addressed (I never drive in on weekdays as I subway to work every day) but, honestly, my weekend drives in with my small children are not that bad. I am able to park easily. I don't think my right to come into Manhattan is any less valid than those living there wanting to have emptier streets. Keep in mind the 6 train runs local in the Bronx weekends so a mass transit trip is way longer (unless MoveNY wants to recommend express service in the Bronx on weekends as well).
Finally, I think this should also be looked at after consideration is given to bringing back the commuter tax for non-NYC residents who work in NYC but live outside.
I am against the 60th St. toll as there is a potential for Bronx residents to be tolled twice if they try to drive into Manhattan. As a lifelong NYC resident, the outer boroughs have always played second fiddle to Manhattan and this adds to the impression that only Manhattan counts. I have 2 small children and most Sundays, we drive into Manhattan for a family day which includes us getting lunch or dinner. That trip now becomes much more expensive if I have to pay 2 tolls.
Which brings me to my other issues with this. Why do drivers going North at 60th street have to pay toll since they are leaving the area.? Also, if this is implemented, the tolls should only apply during working hours on weekdays.
Finally, trying to get more money out of non-Manhattan NYC residents should only be attempted after trying to get more out of those who chose to leave NYC but work in it. This means bringing back the commuter tax on suburban residents. This could help fund some of these services that this plan intends to.
There are too many flaws in this for me to support and I am a person who lives a green lifestyle and takes mass transit most days and rides my bike for most of my errands. It just seems another Manhattan centric policy at the expense of the rest of the city, which is poorer. Manhattan should not be a gated community.
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Are tolls going to be half the cost they are now so I pay half coming in and half going out? I did not get that impression. Plus I am not sure how one games the toll at this point? If I want to avoid it, I cant go into Queens since I still have to use the Triborough to get back,.
Anyway, I think a compromise on this is to have the plan only apply on weekdays between 8am and 6pm and no tolls leaving the area since one leaving helps solve the issue by reducing congestion. I agree that weekday congestion is horrible and needs to be addressed (I never drive in on weekdays as I subway to work every day) but, honestly, my weekend drives in with my small children are not that bad. I am able to park easily. I don't think my right to come into Manhattan is any less valid than those living there wanting to have emptier streets. Keep in mind the 6 train runs local in the Bronx weekends so a mass transit trip is way longer (unless MoveNY wants to recommend express service in the Bronx on weekends as well).
Finally, I think this should also be looked at after consideration is given to bringing back the commuter tax for non-NYC residents who work in NYC but live outside.
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